I had to do this:
12-steps to recovery from the poisonous doctrine of a pre-trib secret rapture
- We admitted we were powerless over this doctrine —that our lives had become useless.
- We Came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to a victorious mindset.
- We Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood him.
- We Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
- We Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
- We’re entirely ready to have God remove our shortcomings.
- We Humbly asked him to remove our shortcomings.
- We Made a list of all persons we had harmed with this doctrine, and became willing to make amends to them all by correcting our teachings starting with our leaders.
- We Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would severely shame them or others that are not ready to repent.
- We Continued to take personal inventory so that we will not slip back to Defeatism and when we were feeling afraid and weak we promptly admitted it.
- We Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood him, praying only for knowledge of his will for us and the power to carry that out.
- Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to others, and to practice these principles in all of our affairs.
Ok, Lets get down to business:
Matthew 24:39 is the most twisted out-of-context excuse for pre-trib rapture I have ever heard. It makes me cringe when i see pre-tribbers use it… I can’t believe it is still being used. This is the correct interpretation of that passage:
“Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.” — Luke 17:33-37
There’s only one reason why particular birds will be gathered together over these bodies.
Lets look at another verse:
Revelation 19:15 “And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.”
Revelation 19:17,18 “And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.”
Now I will ask you, If one shall be taken and the other stays, and clearly the one who is taken will be devoured by the Lord’s “Fowls that Fly in the Midst of Heaven.” At what point is there a “secret rapture”? And what happens to those who stayed?
I will show you why they stayed and remained:
Exodus 12:13 “And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.”
John 17:15 “I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.”
John 17: 20, 21 “Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”
Romans 5:9, “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.”
Yea, I don’t know how much more clear the bible can get.
No Secret Rapture.
Luke 17:33 “Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. “
There’s a difference between GOD’S WRATH and GREAT TRIBULATION. “Shall be saved from wrath through Him” (God’s Wrath) and “Shall lose his life shall preserve it” (Tribulation). I believe this is very clear.
We will all go through tribulations in one way or another,
but only those who reject God and kill the saints will face his Wrath.
In all seven letters of the Seven Churches there is one thing in common. “HE THAT OVERCOMETH”. You are not an Overcomer if you haven’t been through the furnace in some form or way. In other words the secret rapture doesn’t give us the ability to Overcome, it’s a “cheat code”, and God doesn’t like cheats… We shall be tried, and we shall die until the Lord returns on clouds from the Sky. Does death mean we lost? Absolutely not. We can not lose if we have Christ. We shall overcome.
Revelation 6:10, 11 “And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.”
Revelation 7:9 “After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;”
Revelation 7:13 “And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”
No Secret Rapture.
Notice that the First of the DEAD were given white robes. Notice that those that Came OUT of the Great Tribulation were also given White Robes. Notice that the First of the Dead were told to wait for a little season until those who SHOULD BE KILLED AS THEY WERE, Should be fulfilled. We see that fullfillment by those coming Out of, not Escaping from, the Great Tribulation.
It’s really simple.
Revelation is not “out of order”. Revelation It’s straightforward; overlapping at least three or four more times as it reveals more details and different angles of the same order of things repetitively. It’s silly for us to assume that there is no overlay, and that both past and future are not being revealed. The only rapture is the World Wide Visibility of the Translation of the Saints at the Lord’s Physical Second Coming.
I pray this can be just as clear to all of you.
Remember the Key is Consistency. The moment some doctrine showed that God was partial and unjust should have made us question such doctrine. I would rather suffer for Christ than to escape this world without going through anything except figuring out if I should stuff my face with food, and surf through tv channels until Christ secretly raptures me up. Doesn’t this bother anyone? Doesn’t anyone feel that we are purposed for something greater?
Follow the Twelve Steps and hopefully you too will be liberated from this debilitating “counter-reformative” doctrine.